Or, Open Letter to a Certain Someone
Published on January 18, 2006 By stutefish In War on Terror
Let's agree to disagree about the strategic value of the Iraq war, shall we? Suffice to say that I believe the long-term benefits will outweigh the short-term drawbacks, and that while I admit that it is a huge gamble, it is a risk worth taking, for the long-term benefits it will bring if successful (and also because I'm convinced that the consequences of not taking this risk would be worse than the consequences of taking this risk and failing).

I know you disagree with me on these points. We've both presented the best arguments we can in favor of our positions. Neither of us is going to change the other's mind.

What's more, it will be several years before we have any clear idea about which of us is right, and which of us is wrong. Only time will resolve this disgreement for us.

In the mean time, what are my options? What would you recommend a good conservative do?

I couldn't really vote for Kerry, since as a "liberal" Democrat he'd be even more likely to increase spending and expand government power (without even getting a war on to to justify it). Not only that, but other than opposing the Iraq thing, he didn't really have a plan for fighting terrorism. In fact, I have yet to hear a single Democrat say anything substantial at all on the subject of immigration reform (for example) in the context of the war on terror. If the Bush plan is so bad, where's the Clinton plan?

For that matter, where's your plan?

How about this: You come up with a solid, detailed plan for combating terror. Take into account state sponsors of terror, the occasional necessity of choosing the lesser of two evils, the various trade-offs in liberty and security your plan would require, and the amount of collateral damage you expect and would be willing to accept if your plan was implemented. Post your plan on JU, and defend it fiercely in debate. If it turns out to hold together better than the Bush plan (which shouldn't be too hard; even I have some doubts about the Bush plan), and one of your liberal candidates adopts your plan or something like it as part of their campaign platform, I will vote for them or support their candicacy in any way I can.

Ready?

Go!

Comments
on Jan 18, 2006
Bush's plan is a bad one (on immigration), but you are right.  No one has brought up a counter plan.  In point of fact, they dont bring up any counter plans, even when I have the Bush ones!
on Jan 18, 2006
It might be a good idea to stop putting cronies in high-level homeland security positions.
on Jan 18, 2006

It might be a good idea to stop putting cronies in high-level homeland security positions.

It would be a good idea for some to suggest alternatives instead of just being negative as well.

on Jan 18, 2006
I totally agree, Ben!

Unless, of course, the "cronies" have some qualifications and do good work. Then, you know, maybe it's not so bad...

Anyway, tell us more about your plan! What are these cronies doing wrong? What should they do instead? What would distinguish the people you know and trust, that you would appoint to such positions? What would be better about the plan that they implemented, by your command, than the plan currently being implemented (or not, as the case may be) by the Bush cronies?

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

BenUser knows how to complain about the current plan, but can't seem to offer me any alternative at all. I just got through promising that if he put some effort into a better plan, I would back that plan. But even that promise isn't enough to motivate him to say or do anything useful.

I mean, was Kerry going to not put cronies in positions of power? And anyway, how is that a plan?

BUSH: Sure, there'll be some cronyism and incompetence in my administration, but I'll also be delivering beatings to asshats on a regular basis. Plus, I'll use the nation's intelligence apparatus to actually spy on terrorists, something that didn't seem to happen much under my predecessor.

KERRY: I promise to not engage in cronyism before I engage in cronyism. Plus, I plan to not deliver beatings to asshats. And I think the nation's intelligence apparatus is working just fine... so far as discrediting my political opponents goes, anyway.
on Jan 18, 2006
BenUser knows how to complain about the current plan, but can't seem to offer me any alternative at all


That is the way of the typical Democrat right now. That is exactly what lost Kerry the race and is turning people off from Shrillary. I litany of complaints is not a plan! You can't merely say how bad the current administration is without showing how you would do any better.

You can't just keep saying "this is bad" and "we need to stop that" without saying what we should do instead.
on Jan 18, 2006
It might be a good idea to stop putting cronies in high-level homeland security positions.

It would be a good idea for some to suggest alternatives instead of just being negative as well.


OK. How 'bout this for an alternative. Instead of putting cronies in high-level homeland security positions, put them in low-level ones. <- the smiley denotes a positive attitude.
on Jan 18, 2006

OK. How 'bout this for an alternative. Instead of putting cronies in high-level homeland security positions, put them in low-level ones. <- the smiley denotes a positive attitude.

Ok, so how does that translate to next monday?

on Jan 19, 2006
Iraq: Do as Eisenhower did with Korea; reassess the current strategy and come up with a better plan of deployment to end the insurgency whether or not it would take more troops, or immediate withdrawal if there is nothing more we can do to end the chaos.
Economy: Though unemployment is consistently low, ordinary wages are decreasing in real dollars and will eventuate less consumer spending, on which our system depends.
Social Security: for every dollar the employee contributes to SS Plus, 25 cents is added by the government.
Health Care: All employers should be compelled to offer a generous health plan and tagged to their profits, would qualify for a subsidy. Moreover, a strong leader would jawbone the medical profession, pharmaceuticals, and hospitals to freeze fees and prices or face a rollback.
While we fiddle in Iraq, Iran is seething. We should realign foreign policy priorities.
on Jan 19, 2006
Social Security: for every dollar the employee contributes to SS Plus, 25 cents is added by the government.


This one doesn't make any sense to me. $0.25 added by the gov't? We pretty much are the gov't, as far as money is concerned. That $0.25 has to come from somewhere. I don't see any difference between the gov't adding an extra $0.25 and an employee adding an extra $0.25. We don't have any state run, for-profit businesses, or a national surplus of cash. We'd probably have to tax that same employee to get that money, probably about $0.26 to cover administration fees.
on Jan 19, 2006
What's wrong with the current Iraq deployment plan of "train up Iraqi forces and draw down coalition forces in the same measure as Iraqi forces step up"?
on Jan 19, 2006
Also, your Economic plan of "Though unemployment is consistently low, ordinary wages are decreasing in real dollars and will eventuate less consumer spending, on which our system depends." doesn't seem to contain much plan.

(For the record, I think the plan here is for the next two generations of Americans to realize that in a global economy, their wages are going to have to get a lot more competitive. Our children and grandchildren are gonna have to suck it up, and there's not much we can do about it except develop, capitalize, and liberalize as much of the third world as possible as quickly as possible.)
on Jan 19, 2006
While we fiddle in Iraq, Iran is seething. We should realign foreign policy priorities.


Would you say that being in Iraq would help us or hurt us, should Iran go nuclear?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "realign foreign policy priorities" in regards to Iran. I was under the impression that Iran is one of our top priorities at the moment.
on Jan 19, 2006
Here, I'll make it easy for you Stutefish:

Plan A is really retarded. What really needs to happen if for someone to implement a Plan B. What is Plan B? Well, I don't know... maybe it involves unicorns & rainbows, but I'm no expert. I'm sure the democratic party could come up with something better. But the point is Plan A is just stupid and we should fire everyone involved!
on Jan 19, 2006
I was under the impression that Iran is one of our top priorities at the moment.


Oops, forgot to include the link:

Iran scorns EU trio's draft nuclear resolution