What's So Bad About George W. Bush?

on Feb 25, 2005

As to scientific policies he says that global warming is junk science, and discourages teaching the use of condoms and other birth control in school's. Environmentally, he calls a policy that pollutes and favors big corporations the "Clean Skies Act", encourages oil drilling in the Alaskan wilderness and, again, backs the US out of the Kyoto protocol, ignoring the dangers of global warming. He has also pulled us out of Clinton's world wide plan to end nuclear armament and building, therefore encouraging other countries to do the same, knowing full well that nuclear war would be an environmental catastrophe.

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stutefish

on Feb 25, 2005

On the other hand,

Sarah Stoeckl said:

Seriously though, I have many reasons for disliking Bush but my number one/two are the horrific and unnecessary war he has gotton us in to and his destruction of the international respect, if not good will, the US used to enjoy. Thanks for this article though. It's nice to hear an honest call for honest opinions. What prompted your writing it? And, in response, what's your single, rational reason for liking the man?

Which is actually a pretty neat answer. Thanks, Sarah! I'd like to know more about your the evidence and line of reasoning that led you to the conclusion that the war is unnecessary, though.

I wrote this article because even though I'm pretty sure I'm right, and even though I prefer to hang out with people who agree with me, who knows? I could be completely wrong. Maybe there's an important fact or principle that I'm overlooking (or wilfully ignoring).

Sometimes it's good to get out of the rut, approach the opposition, and make some time to have your mind changed. So far, though, I have to say the experiment isn't going so well. Yours is the first bright spot in a relatively discouraging set of replies.

Finally, I learned to stop worrying and love W. after spending a month or so listening to NPR's coverage of the run-up to the Iraq war. Before that, I was pretty much apathetically apolitical. During the winter of 2002, though, I went back and forth on a weekly basis: Iraq war good, Iraq war bad, good, bad, etc. When the dust finally settled in my mind, I realized that I don't agree with you: I believe the war was necessary. As to my factual reasons for this belief, I'll show you mine if you show me yours

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PlausibleDeniability

on Feb 25, 2005

Beyond what I wrote a minute ago, and this runs to opinion not fact, I think a policy of unilateralism and pre-emption is the wrong way to go in this every-shrinking world we live on. I don't believe Saddam Hussein was a threat to us and no matter what Bush says now I don't think the bad things he did justify our loss of soldiers, nor do I think that's why we went to war. I think the Bushies and the neo-cons believe the world would be perfect if everyone would just shut up and do it their way, now, and I think that's a frightening attitude for an American president to hold. Proof? It's in front of everyone's eyes. The rest is just opinion and I'll fight for mine to the death if I have to.

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Island Dog

on Feb 25, 2005

Most of the "reasons" given here are pretty pathetic. You still have the one's complaining how bad life is for average Americans which is total bs. Home sales are at record levels, the economy is growing, and most people have a job. These facts are ignored and then they start complaining about deficits.

I think the Bushies and the neo-cons believe the world would be perfect if everyone would just shut up and do it their way,

As opposed to the liberal belief that if we leave the world alone everyone will hug each other and play nice.

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Myrrander

on Feb 25, 2005

Bush pressured the EPA to declare the air in Manhatten safe after 9/11 even though it wasn't.

Bush has advocated restricting stem cell research.

Bush officials have repressed evidence of antibiotic resistant "superbugs" in hog farms and other agricultural endeavors.

Bush has cut funding for the NSF and the EPA.

Bush refuses to acknowledge global warming.

Bush has put corporate interests above scientific evidence time and again.

Here's a link for you.

Link

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drmiler

on Feb 25, 2005

drmiler

Just thought you wanted to be complete. Don't you care about the 25,000 injured or the 300 billion of our tax dollars?

American fighting personel, YES! tax dollars, NO!

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drmiler

on Feb 25, 2005

As to scientific policies he says that global warming is junk science,

Get a grip! Him and over HALF the scientific comunity think the same thing.

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drmiler

on Feb 25, 2005

Bush has advocated restricting stem cell research

And just how has he restricted stem cell research? Especially since he has ear-marked so many funds for it.

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Reiki-House

on Feb 25, 2005

He uses a listening earpiece to get by when he has to face questions. You'll debate that I'm sure but if you and I were in a debate and I was talking then suddenly WHISPERED 'let me finish' to no one present while you weren't even talking to necessitate me saying 'let me finish' you'd know I was speaking to someone else hence the bulge oh his jacket. You know you'd say Kerry was doing it too if he WHISPERED 'let me finish' when Bush was dead silent. You know it.
He sends men off to war while having avoided combat himself. Again you'll debate it but he did in fact leave his duties to help on that compaign, he did in fact leave his duties in the national guard to the point where people don't recall him ever being around. If Bush served one minute in a combat role my opinion of him would be considerably different, but not too considerably. Ha.
He's a known drunk. Or was. He was a known coke user. He used pot. But hell, don't we all?
He treats the US public as if they were total idiot morons who don't know any better.

He lies. That's not debatable. And repeating a lie is still a lie. Yellowcake from Africa. Lie. Iraq's WMD. Lie. Iraqi drones hitting the coast of the US with Chemwarfare. Lie.
He, a war evader, invited armed men, in a volatile hostile region, to attack his own troops. In the real world that's called High Treason. Not to you though I suspect. It was a simple beating-the-chest forgivable ignorable quips we all make. "Bring em on!".
He said either we're with the US or with the terrorists, then turns around and let's the US negotiate with the liberty-loving 'insurgents' in Iraq. Translation: "Either you are with us, or you are with the evildoing people we will negotiate with if they manage to kill enough of our men".
The list goes on.

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Reiki-House

on Feb 25, 2005

"tax dollars, NO!"
What I said about him treating the US public as if they were drones..

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drmiler

on Feb 25, 2005

He uses a listening earpiece to get by when he has to face questions. You'll debate that I'm sure but if you and I were in a debate and I was talking then suddenly WHISPERED 'let me finish' to no one present while you weren't even talking to necessitate me saying 'let me finish' you'd know I was speaking to someone else hence the bulge oh his jacket. You know you'd say Kerry was doing it too if he WHISPERED 'let me finish' when Bush was dead silent. You know it.
He sends men off to war while having avoided combat himself. Again you'll debate it but he did in fact leave his duties to help on that compaign, he did in fact leave his duties in the national guard to the point where people don't recall him ever being around. If Bush served one minute in a combat role my opinion of him would be considerably different, but not too considerably. Ha.
He's a known drunk. Or was. He was a known coke user. He used pot. But hell, don't we all?
He treats the US public as if they were total idiot morons who don't know any better.
He lies. That's not debatable. And repeating a lie is still a lie. Yellowcake from Africa. Lie. Iraq's WMD. Lie. Iraqi drones hitting the coast of the US with Chemwarfare. Lie.
He, a war evader, invited armed men, in a volatile hostile region, to attack his own troops. In the real world that's called High Treason. Not to you though I suspect. It was a simple beating-the-chest forgivable ignorable quips we all make. "Bring em on!".
He said either we're with the US or with the terrorists, then turns around and let's the US negotiate with the liberty-loving 'insurgents' in Iraq. Translation: "Either you are with us, or you are with the evildoing people we will negotiate with if they manage to kill enough of our men".
The list goes on.

Why don't you go sit with "Clueless Old Liberal". His line of thinking is right up your alley

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Island Dog

on Feb 25, 2005

Bush refuses to acknowledge global warming.

Hard to acknowledge something that hasn't been proven.

He uses a listening earpiece to get by when he has to face questions. You'll debate that I'm sure but if you and I were in a debate and I was talking then suddenly WHISPERED 'let me finish' to no one present while you weren't even talking to necessitate me saying 'let me finish' you'd know I was speaking to someone else hence the bulge oh his jacket. You know you'd say Kerry was doing it too if he WHISPERED 'let me finish' when Bush was dead silent. You know it.

What are you talking about? Does your blind hatred for Bush just get in the way of all common sense? Where do you get your conspiracy theories from?

He sends men off to war while having avoided combat himself. Again you'll debate it but he did in fact leave his duties to help on that compaign, he did in fact leave his duties in the national guard to the point where people don't recall him ever being around. If Bush served one minute in a combat role my opinion of him would be considerably different, but not too considerably. Ha.

Dan Rather is that you? Bush did nothing wrong while he served in the National Guard. He got an honorable discharge, so what's the problem? Did you criticize Clinton for avoiding combat when he used the military?

He's a known drunk. Or was. He was a known coke user. He used pot. But hell, don't we all?

You should say he's a former drinker. Just like some people are drunks that drive cars into lakes and runs off to protect their political future.

He treats the US public as if they were total idiot morons who don't know any better.

Proof?

He lies. That's not debatable. And repeating a lie is still a lie. Yellowcake from Africa. Lie. Iraq's WMD. Lie. Iraqi drones hitting the coast of the US with Chemwarfare. Lie.

Are you prepared to call all the democrats who repeated those "lies" liars as well?

He, a war evader, invited armed men, in a volatile hostile region, to attack his own troops. In the real world that's called High Treason. Not to you though I suspect. It was a simple beating-the-chest forgivable ignorable quips we all make. "Bring em on!".

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have read today.

He said either we're with the US or with the terrorists, then turns around and let's the US negotiate with the liberty-loving 'insurgents' in Iraq. Translation: "Either you are with us, or you are with the evildoing people we will negotiate with if they manage to kill enough of our men".

That statement was made way before the war in Iraq started. And what insurgents did Bush negotiate with again?

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COL Gene

on Feb 25, 2005

Clinton avoided the draft like our VP. Bush wanted to make it look like he served without serving. His honorable discharge was undeserved since he did not obey regulations or attend drills for the last six months of 1972. He got help from Daddy's friends! If he had been im my unit, I would have reported him for active duty when he failed to attend drills. If he did not obey regulations(The physical) I would have recommended an Art 32 investigation, under the UCMJ. That would have been the end of any honorable discharge.

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gman--

on Feb 25, 2005

I stand corrected on the number killed in Iraq, how many were your children? Stutefish, you keep talking about facts but give none. What are your facts supporting a war in Iraq that are not associated with Saddam being a mean old man? The world is full of mean old men in power. P.S. I am a diehard Republican, do drop the liberal crap.

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kona0197

on Feb 25, 2005

Why is President Bush a bad President?

The decisions he has made.

And Iraq. Those tropps should have been used in hunting down some one who actually hurt us: Osama.