No, not the movie
Published on March 9, 2005 By stutefish In US Domestic
What's wrong with the Ten Commandments, anyway? Name one Commandment that doesn't have a universal application. Name one Commandment--just one!--that doesn't communicate a valuabe principle that every healthy community should firmly believe in.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"? How about this: Know what you believe, and be true to it. Christians, study your scriptures, practice what you preach, avoid hypocrisy. Likewise all you other people with core principles to believe in. Hindu? Be true to your Hindu gods. Buddhist? Don't water down your belief in the evils of Desire, but devote yourself sincerely to desiring nothing. Or don't. I'm not really clear on how Buddhism works. But you Buddhists know. Or should, anyway, if you were serious about your beliefs.

Sure, the Judeo-Christian Ten Commandments put this injunction in Judeo-Christian terms, but that's because it's their version. Are you telling me that other belief systems don't have similar injunctions? Are you telling me that belief systems shouldn't have such injunctions?

And this applies to non-religious value systems, too. The Greens know this commandment. They obey it every day, when they steadfastly refuse any compromise or dilution of their highest principles.

Know what you believe, and be true to it. This is advice we could all benefit from hearing more often. And the halls of Justice aren't a bad place to hear it.

"Thou shalt not murder"? Please. Are there any beliefsystems that value wrongful killing? Okay, bad question. Are there any belief systems out there that value wrongful killing, that we actually want to be part of our community's overall system of values? Any healthy communities out there that promote murder as a core principle? Any reason at all why "don't fucking kill people" is a bad thing to have carved in stone in of our Courts of Law?

"Honor thy father and thy mother"? Riiight. Because children who are encouraged not to respect their elders generally contribute valuable things to a healthy community. Only... not so much. Again, how many religions are making valuable contributions to our community life by advocating a rejection of parents by their children?

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife"? Give me a break. Envy, covetousness, greed... these attitudes are sickening to the individual and to the community.. Don't get hung up on what you don't have. Don't resent your neighbors for their good fortune, or the fruits of their hard labor. Insanity aside, almost all crime arises from this unhealthy obsession with what we don't have, compared to those around us.

Know what your highest values are. Be true to those values. Don't kill people. Respect your elders. Don't base your happiness on things you don't have.

These are all good, healthy values for a community to develop and promote. They may not all be laws, but they all inform our laws, and make a good foundation for responsible and fulfilling interactions with our fellow humans. Far from banning them from the public places, we should be celebrating them in all their forms. Rather than tearing down the Judeo-Christian version, we should be enshrining the Hindu version, and the Confucian version, and Islamic version, right there alongside, in every courthouse in America.

If you're offended by the Ten Commandments, then I have to ask: what kind of monster are you?

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on Mar 13, 2005
Well, I am debating the correct translation of that passage. Sure, everybody else might accept it to be "graven images," but does everybody else actually know the true translation, or do they only think they know it from what others have said?


glad to know you've joined those of us who have serious reservations about the scriptures for that very same reason.
on Mar 13, 2005
glad to know you've joined those of us who have serious reservations about the scriptures for that very same reason.


Therefore, what's the point of debating over it referring to "graven images" since it could possibly mean "silver images" or "golden images" or "sacrilegious images?"
on Mar 13, 2005
First, the ten commandments would specifically endorse one religion, because many religions have different versions of the 10 Commandments. Second, some of the ten commandments are not things the government can regulate. Sloth? Adultery? These are not the areas the government is allowed to command.
on Mar 14, 2005

First, the ten commandments would specifically endorse one religion, because many religions have different versions of the 10 Commandments. Second, some of the ten commandments are not things the government can regulate. Sloth? Adultery? These are not the areas the government is allowed to command.


First the commandments specifically endorse NO particular religion. Show me wher it says that these are Christian values only? Secondly what do the commandments have to do with what the government can or can not regulate? Just because a statue is displayed on our property (state that is. And who is the state if not us?" does not mean that the state can regulate *anything* in the commandments.
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